Page Orientation

[F***@adobeforums.com]

I am creating a template that is mostly laid out as portrait, but some pages (within the document) must be landscape.
I have managed to create a 2nd master with page laid out as landscape and applied to the relevant pages only. While the document page numbering is fine, the paragraph numbering goes haywire, and text seems to jump over the landscape page onto the next portrait page.
I could always just leave these few pages as portrait and flip the text frame, but then the header and footer are in the wrong place.
Does anyone have any other ideas ?

[K***@adobeforums.com]

How is it you have a another master that is landscape?

As far as I can see, InDesign doesn't allow different paper sizes or orientations within the same document. (I think there is a plug-in for this)

Orientation is a document level setting, not a master page setting.

Flip the text frame on the occasional page that is different. For the header and footer, use a different master with the header and footer flipped also.

[F***@adobeforums.com]

I have created a 2nd master with header and footer text running down the sides (ie. it LOOKS like a landscape page but is in fact portrait). Further into the document where I want my landscape pages I have flipped the text frame so also looks like a landscape page. I apply the "landscape" master onto those 2 pages and they look as I expect HOWEVER, the paragraph numbering goes haywire, AND text completely bypasses those 2 "landscape" pages and jumps to next "portrait" page.

[P***@adobeforums.com]

I'm not sure why the paragraph numbering goes "haywire" (although I suspect it's because of a discontinuity in the text threading) but if you've used master text frames and applied the masters before auto-flowing text it would explain why your "landscape" pages are being bypassed. Text only auto-flows across different masters if you DON'T use master text frames, otherwise, because the master text frames are linked to the master page, InDesign will look for the next page that has the correct master, or make it if necessary.

Basically, this boils down to a situation where you will need to do some manual work.

You can place your text first, then rotate the frame and reshape on the pages that need it. You can have separate masters for headings, but it will go smoother if you don't add master text frames and just let ID flow the text into the space inside your margin guides.

The other option, if you want the master frames (and you can rotate them first in this version), would be to use "semi-auto" flow while placing the text. Instead of holding shift while placing, hold the alt key. This will fill one frame at a time, but leave the cursor loaded for the next one so you don't have to keep clicking the overset indicator to reload. You can flow across different masters this way because you are choosing where the next frame in the thread is located. This is a pain if the odd master is deep in the document somewhere, but it will work. Once you've passed the last occurrence of the odd page you can switch to full auto-flow to finish.

Peter

[F***@adobeforums.com]

Hi,
I have created the entire document in portrait, set up my "landscape" master (minus text frame), which I then applied to those 2 pages. All numbering is fine. Unfortunately those 2 pages contain tables so when I rotate them they don't quite fit on the new "landscape" page. And InDD apparently doesn't do table breaks.
Any suggestions ?

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Post by F***@adobeforums.com
And InDD apparently doesn't do table breaks.

The table will most certainly break, but a cell won't.

Bob

[F***@adobeforums.com]

When I was looking for forced breaks in inDD help, the wording in the section on breaks suggests that inDD doesn't do table breaks at all. It wasn't until I was looking for breaking threads that I came across how to force a break in a table.
My document is now looking as I wanted, complete with "landscape" pages.
Thanks all for your help.