How to do a tête bêche layout in Indesign

[P***@adobeforums.com]

Hello, can anyone help me with the following? I have an 8 page booklet that has to be layed out as a tête bêche (pages 1 through 4 are in one language and pages 5 to 8 have the same content, but in another language. Pages 5 to 8 are "upside down", so that you actually get a 4 page booklet in one language, and if you turn the publication around and flip it, you get the same in another language).
At first I thought "I'll just lay pages 5 to 8 out normally, and then group everything page per page, and then rotate them 180°", but I'm afraid things will shift due to the baseline grid that will not rotate, of course.
Does anyone know how to do this, or should I rotate the pages afterwards, in Acrobat (if that is at all possible).
Thanks for letting me know...

[unknown]

Are you printing this yourself or sending it out? If you're sending it
out, talk to the printer.

If you're doing it yourself create the two documents separately. Export
a PDF of the second language document and place the individual pages in
the first language document. Flip the pages and export a new PDF.

But yes, you can certainly rotate the pages in Acrobat.

Bob

[Stan Wetherald]

The issue will be reordering the pages so that Page 5 is an upside down page 4 of the second language and Page 6 is an upside down page 3 and so on and so forth. No matter how you create the booklet, you will have to reorder the pages manually so that imposition can be accomplished correctly.

Stan Wetherald
Quality Quickprint
DeLand, Florida USA

[K***@adobeforums.com]

But if you do as Bob says and just place upside down PDFs there is no reordering to do. It's just a normal InDesign
document to print however you would normally print it.

All you need to do is tell the printer what's happening so the guys in the press room don't attempt to 'correct' anything.

k

[P***@adobeforums.com]

Thanks everyone for your help! It's been very useful. This is my first big Indesign file and it's seems to have got it all: CJK text (already figured that out), tête bêche layout, CS3 to CS2 compatibilty...
I guess it's the best way to learn :-)

[Stan Wetherald]

Ken
I disagree because even if you turn the pages upside down in Acrobat, page 1 is still page 1. You would have to place the upside down pages in reverse order. Although from his last comment Piet Van den Eynde seems to understand that.

I only commented because I have had to fix files from customers where they tried to lay things out into printer's spreads and totally screwed up their file. It cost them just as much for me to fix it as it would have for me to create it in the first place.

Anyway "all's well that ends well!" to quote some ancient playwriter.

Stan Wetherald
Quality Quickprint
DeLand, Florida USA

[K***@adobeforums.com]

Stan. A question of interpretation I think. Your post implied that the pages of the InDesign file would have to be moved
about for correct imposition because of starting with a page 1 at each end. I was just pointing out that if you place
the PDFs correctly, the file is no different from any other InDesign file when it comes to imposition.

k