How can i Show "inside bleed"? It's always hidden.

[M***@adobeforums.com]

Hi!

I'm doing a book in IDCS2 and I have setup the pages as "facing pages". The book will be paperback and it will include color photos where some of them are supposed go all the way into the spine.

Now my problem is that I don't see the "Inside bleed" margins, but only the 3mm bleed around the 3 remaining sides of each page, although I have 3mm inside bleed setup in the preferences.

How do I display these bleeds? I would really need to see them so I can drag the images all the way out "to the spine" so I don't get a white stripe when the book is printed and bound.

Martin M

[unknown]

Using an inside bleed is, in my experience, highly unusual. In fact,
I've never used one.

Have you spoken to the printer about this? If not, I would highly
recommend that as your first step.

Bob

[M***@adobeforums.com]

Bob,
Yes I spoke with my printer yesterday about this and he told me that I should use inside bleed so the images would go all the way into the spine.
So when I came home I tried to set it up so the inside bleed would be visible, but I couldn't. So I searched the net about it, but it almost seems it can't be done. Which sounds almost impossible to me, I mean we're talking about InDesign CS2 here :) sure it should be possible. I just don't know how.

When using the view mode which displays all the margins, the 2 facing pages should pop aside, leaving enough space in the middle for the inside bleed on both left and right pages. And when going back to preview mode (or whatever its called in the English version), the facing pages should pop together like magnets.

And this would be impossible?

Martin

[unknown]

AFAIK, you can't see inside bleed with facing pages. If that's
important, then export a PDF. The bleed will be there.

Or wait around...someone may know a trick. But I still don't see the
point in having an inside bleed. Any good printer should be able to
impose the pages properly and wouldn't even want the bleed.

The only exception I can think of would be a spiral bound book and then
I think I'd stay away from facing pages.

Bob

[M***@adobeforums.com]

I understand. Then I think I'll talk with my printer again.
Thanks for the help!

Regards,

Martin

[AlFerrari]

Martin,

There is indeed a way to do what you are asking for. See this link:

<http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?7@@.1de9486b/34>

There have also been several posts by Diane King with a clearer explanation of the steps to be taken, but a quick search suggests her posts may have expired. The link above is a permanent one.

The technique allows for the separation of left and right hand pages while maintaining them as right and left hand pages. But one important thing worth mentioning, is that there must be extra image available when the frame is extended after the pages are separated.

Post back if you have trouble with it.

Any good printer should be able to impose the pages properly and wouldn't
even want the bleed.




See this post and the ensuing discussion for an explanation of why the printer would indeed want the bleed:

AlFerrari, "Perfect-Bound Magazine, Inner Bleed?" #21, 21 May 2006 9:38 pm </cgi-bin/webx?14@@.3bbff982/20>

I am a commercial printer and it just so happens that i am presently working on a perfect bound book with many instances of bleeds into the spine. I separate the pages and extend the bleed as described in the first link. Only then do I proceed to output and imposition. Note that the changes I am making to the file are as Sandee points out, at the end of the process.

Al Ferrari